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Trilogy Comparisons

November 21, 2007 -

Have you ever considered movie trilogies as a whole and their quality in relation to each other? Some trilogies get progressively worse with each movie, and others get better. In some trilogies, the middle movie is best. Why is that?

I was discussing this last night with my father-in-law, who doesn't think he's ever seen the new Star Wars trilogy. I was telling him which movie was the best, and just because I was positing that everyone knows which Star Wars movie is The Best One, I asked Linda who was on the other side of the room. She knew it was Empire. Everyone knows that episode 5 is the best one. Common knowledge. And Episode 5 was the second movie of the original trilogy. Anyway, I digress.

Although I can't cite a sufficient quantity to back my feeling, it often feels like the most common route is for trilogies to get worse with each movie. This is certainly the case with The Matrix trilogy, for example. The three X-men movies also arguably got worse with each iteration, although the first two were both very good.

Other trilogies actually get better with each movie. Case in point: the new Star Wars trilogy. Very few people would argue with the opinion that Phantom Menace was the worst of the batch, and I certainly believe that Episode 3 was the best least bad. The Evil Dead trilogy also follows this formula if you view Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, and Army of Darkness as a trilogy.

By far the most numerous order that I could dredge up was that in which the second movie was best and the final movie worst of the trilogy. This is certainly the case with the canon Star Wars trilogy - The Empire Strikes Back is quite possibly my favorite movie of all time. The Terminator trilogy seems to follow the same formula, although it won't long be a trilogy. Ditto Spiderman and Final Destination. The second movie was the best, followed closely by the first, but the third wasn't quite up to snuff. Why is that formula so common?

I can think of two trilogies in which the first movie was best and the second movie worst. Firstly, The Highlander trilogy. Actually, the first movie was the only good one in that series anyway. And I don't acknowledge the TV show's existance, despite what many beseech me to believe. Secondly, Die Hard. The first Die Hard movie was awesome. I also enjoyed the third, but the second just doesn't do it for me for some reason.

I could only come up with one trilogy in which the second movie was worst and the final movie was best. And this one isn't going to be a trilogy forever either. Indiana Jones. Sean Connery's insertion in the third movie was a stroke of genius, and the movie's story as a whole was excellent. But Temple of Doom, while not a terrible flick, didn't stand up to the quality of its brethren films.

I couldn't come up with any trilogies in which the first movie was worst and the second best. I guess when the first movie is the worst, the trilogy generally doesn't get made. The only exceptions I've found to this were the new Star Wars movies, where Lucas couldn't stop just because he directed the steaming pile that was Episode 1, and the Evil Dead movies, where the second film was really just a remake of the first that sucked less.

So what do you think, dear reader? Any trilogies I missed?

Comments on Trilogy Comparisons
 
Comment Wed, November 21 - 2:04 PM by Sven
The last trilogy I went to see, was the last part of "Pirates Of The Caribean". It was a triple feature and since I hadn't seen any of the movies, I was already exhausted, when the last part started.I think the first part was pretty good and the movies got worse the same rate as my attention weakend. I couldn't follow the last part at all. I guess, I am getting old. So that's one for first best, third worst.

What do you think of Die hard 4.0 (It wasn't a Trilogy at last)? I enjoyed it a lot. You just didn't have to take it too seriously. I agree, the second was the weakest.

Blade is an example, where the second part was the worst. The third was bette, but couldn't cope with the first.

I still have to see the last part of the Bourne Identity so i cannot comment on this, but I thought the first part was pretty good and the second was OK.

Last to mention maybe, is The Lord Of The Rings. All of which were amazing.
 
Comment Wed, November 21 - 3:10 PM by Greg
Wow - good call, Sven. You got a lot of Trilogies I'd forgotten. I still haven't seen the 3rd Pirates of the Carribean movie or 4th Die Hard movie yet, and I'd completely forgotten Blade and Bourne Identity.

As for Lord of the Rings, all three were amazing - hard to compare them.
 
Comment Wed, November 21 - 4:10 PM by Kris Johnson
While all three Star Wars prequels were rubbish, I'm going to disagree with you about which was "best". Attack of the Clones (Episode II) is my least favorite of the prequel trilogy (and, by extension, the worst Star Wars movie ever made). The best thing about that movie is the laws-of-physics-defying sound effect of Jango Fett's mines exploding in the Fett/Kenobi chase sequence, and the worst thing about that movie is EVERYTHING ELSE.

Yes, The Phantom Menace was bad. Jake Lloyd can't (or perhaps just didn't) act. The inclusion of Jar Jar Binks was...unfortunate, as was the idea of continuity-shattering midi-chlorians. But if there's one thing worse than Lloyd as Anakin Skywalker, it's Hayden Christensen as Anakin Skywalker. The "love story" in Episode II is gut-wrenching, and not in a good way. Portman and Christensen have all the chemistry of a set of matched teak bookends, and it's just painful to watch them love one another.

As for Spider-Man 2, that's only better than the original as long as Peter Parker doesn't have his mask off, because any time he has a conversation with someone in that movie they're preaching to him. Angst that takes three wordy panels in a comic book lasts several long minutes in the movie, and the whole while I was just waiting for Peter to jump back in the Spidey duds and just HIT SOMETHING for cryin' out loud. I'm all for plot and character development, but I can only watch Tobey Maguire receive so many lectures before I long for an eye-popping action sequence. Yes, the train battle was excellent (even better than the highway chase in The Matrix Reloaded) but what I suffered through to get to that sequence was so painful that I refused to pay even a single dollar to see Spider-Man 3.

Did you mention The Matrix, by the way? I generally try to avoid acknowledging the second and third installments in that trilogy because they made me want to take the pill that would let me forget everything I knew about The Matrix.

One last thing: I prefer X-Men 2 to the original, but the third one stuck an adamantium claw into my chest and pierced my heart, and not in a good way. I firmly believed that Bryan Singer would have made a superior movie...until I saw the train wreck that was Superman Returns.

I seem to be ranting now.
 
Comment Wed, November 21 - 10:53 PM by Dad H
How about Jurassic Park ? First was the best / 2nd was good too but the third didn't measure up. Can't even recall the NAMES of the 2nd and 3rd movies. Help anyone??
Also....would the Japaneese consider the
Godzilla movies a trilogy?
Finally, ask Nato about the bikini movies!! They starred Annette Funicello in the late 50's i think and there were three of them. Any help from the grey hairs out there??
 
Comment Wed, November 21 - 11:44 PM by Kris Johnson
The Lost World: Jurassic Park and Jurassic Park III, respectively, though I tend to refer to the third installment as "Jurassic Park: More Damn Dinosaurs". They were both very, very disappointing.

The films Blue, White and Red form trilogy a from director Krzysztof Kieslowski, but it's been so long since I saw any of those films that I couldn't say which is the best.

 
Comment Thu, November 22 - 8:24 PM by Keith
I believe that the reason the story lines seem to get regress as the trilagies progrogess is two fold.

the first being that there seems to be more time spent on the charater creation as the viewer learns about the charaters, their deep dark secrets that make them tick.
once the charater is established and a good plot line and dialogue are taken care of, say by weeks of preperation, the reader, or viewer now can relate to them with vivid details....
We sem to lose something, or want to learn more dark secrets about the charaters to expand us in the Realm of their world....

example:
Jack and jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water, jack fell down and broke his crown.....

Jack a young boy, with flaming red hair and buck teeth was on his way to Jill's house. She was a lovely girl, just one year older then Jack....

Which of them might have you more interested in what happens to Jack...I Beleive it is the lack of detail needed to make a sequel...

instead of the second exaple we now have JACK.... and then the plot, plain and simple with missing details.

The second reason for the failure of Expectations and comparision to the first story and the third... we always want more and sometime the OVER THE TOP is not what is really needed to make the other movies better then the first.We expect too much and always want bigger explosion, more violonce, longer and better car explosion...

WE are to much into the HYPE...

You also missed Rambo, and Rocky even though they are not truely trilogies and Indiana Jones.


 
Comment Thu, November 22 - 8:28 PM by Keith
I applogies you did get Indiana Jones...

Rambo I was good, the rest in my oppion was not up to par.

Preditor I was great,

Alien... never really got into it, the creatures scared me to death.

Jaws: 1 don't let little children watch. I still don't like the Beach that much.


Rocky the last one was the worst.
 
Comment Thu, November 22 - 10:04 PM by Kris Johnson
Until "Alien Vs. Predator 2: Can't We All Just Get Along?" comes out next year, you could consider the Predator franchise a trilogy.

The first one is a classic, and I'll watch it pretty much anytime, night or day. If it's 2:00am and I accidentally pull up the DirecTV programming guide when I grab the remote to turn the TV off and see that the original Predator is playing, I'll watch it. Doesn't matter if it just started or if it's halfway through; I'll watch it.

Predator 2 is underrated and worth the price of admission just because the filmmakers added the smart disc (AKA "angry Frisbee") to the Predators' arsenal.

Alien Vs. Predator (or "AVP", as we call it on the street) is a few moments of sheer brilliance suspended in viscous solution of mediocrity and canon-smashing stupidity. Nonetheless, I'm one of the four people on the planet who is looking forward to the sequel.
 
Comment Fri, November 23 - 1:46 PM by Keith
Lets not forget about Shrek...
 
Comment Mon, November 26 - 7:15 PM by Rusty B
Or Back to the Future....
 
Comment Tue, November 27 - 6:51 AM by The Dock
The problem with most trilogies is they were never intended to be Trilogies. The writer producers write a singular plot and for the most part all conflicts and issues are resolved by the closing credits. Thus the director/writers etc. have to scramble and scrape, often to horrible money muching effect.

AVP had the potential to be a great idea, my favorite part(only part I liked actually) was the knock down drag-out fisticuff match that one of the preadators had with one of the aliens.
 
Comment Wed, November 28 - 1:17 PM by Keith
What abot THE GOD FATHER I, II, III